public inbox for binutils@sourceware.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
Cc: Binutils <binutils@sourceware.org>,
	"Jiang, Haochen" <haochen.jiang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] x86: support AVX10.1 vector size restrictions
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 09:57:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1b1b6e37-9484-95d8-d63d-c586a064729f@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMe9rOrEU-SG5tD+VZB94TwgDYaN=0yEo40hKMH=7qDKh6yH+g@mail.gmail.com>

On 29.08.2023 18:26, H.J. Lu wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 5:48 AM Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com> wrote:
>> @@ -1673,6 +1680,12 @@ an unconditional jump to the target.
>>
>>  Note that the sub-architecture specifiers (starting with a dot) can be prefixed
>>  with @code{no} to revoke the respective (and any dependent) functionality.
>> +Note further that @samp{.avx10.<N>} can be suffixed with a vector length
>> +restriction (@samp{/256} or @samp{/128}, with @samp{/512} simply restoring the
>> +default).  Despite these otherwise being "enabling" specifiers, using these
>> +suffixes will disable all insns with wider vector or mask register operands.
>> +On SVR4-derived platforms, the separator character @samp{/} can be replaced by
>> +@samp{:}.
>>
>>  Following the CPU architecture (but not a sub-architecture, which are those
>>  starting with a dot), you may specify @samp{jumps} or @samp{nojumps} to
> 
> Although CPUID bits in AVX10 spec may leave an impression that 128-bit,
> 256-bit and 512-bit vectors may be enabled independently.  But it also says
> 
> A “converged” version of Intel AVX10 with maximum vector lengths of 256
> bits and 32-bit opmask registers will be supported across all Intel processors,
> while 512-bit vector registers and 64-bit opmasks will continue to be supported
> on some P-core processors.
> 
> Adding avx10.1/128 isn't necessary.

I agree it isn't necessary, but as expressed before I view it as desirable.
Apart from the sentence you quoted the spec later also says "There are
currently no plans to support an Intel AVX10/128 implementation." For my
choice of also supporting the 128-bit restriction I'd like to put emphasis
on "currently". I think I said before that emulation environments (qemu,
sde to name just two well-known examples) are free to implement such
further restricted ISAs without then becoming out-of-spec.

Plus supporting this mode right away has made me make certain adjustments
in what I'd call more clean a way, which I view as desirable as well.

Jan

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-30  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-25 12:43 [PATCH 0/5] x86: AVX10.1 (alternative attempt) Jan Beulich
2023-08-25 12:44 ` [PATCH 1/5] x86: correct source used for two non-AVX512 VEXWIG tests Jan Beulich
2023-08-25 12:45 ` [PATCH 2/5] x86: rename CpuPCLMUL Jan Beulich
2023-08-25 12:46 ` [PATCH 3/5] x86: support AVX10.1/512 Jan Beulich
2023-08-28  2:34   ` Jiang, Haochen
2023-08-28  6:45     ` Jan Beulich
2023-08-28  6:59       ` Jiang, Haochen
2023-08-28  7:09         ` Jan Beulich
2023-08-29 16:18           ` H.J. Lu
2023-08-30  1:10             ` Jiang, Haochen
2023-08-30  7:47               ` Jan Beulich
2023-08-30 15:28                 ` H.J. Lu
2023-09-01  8:41                   ` Jan Beulich
2023-09-01  8:52                     ` Jiang, Haochen
2023-09-01  9:57                       ` Jan Beulich
2023-09-05  7:04                         ` Jiang, Haochen
2023-09-05  7:25                           ` Jan Beulich
2023-08-25 12:47 ` [PATCH 4/5] x86: unindent most of set_cpu_arch() Jan Beulich
2023-08-25 12:47 ` [PATCH 5/5] x86: support AVX10.1 vector size restrictions Jan Beulich
2023-08-29 16:26   ` H.J. Lu
2023-08-30  7:57     ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2023-08-30 15:25       ` H.J. Lu
2023-08-30 16:16         ` Jan Beulich
2023-08-30 18:00           ` H.J. Lu
2023-08-31  5:56             ` Jiang, Haochen
2023-08-31  7:18               ` Jan Beulich
2023-09-01  6:21                 ` Jiang, Haochen

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=1b1b6e37-9484-95d8-d63d-c586a064729f@suse.com \
    --to=jbeulich@suse.com \
    --cc=binutils@sourceware.org \
    --cc=haochen.jiang@intel.com \
    --cc=hjl.tools@gmail.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).