From: "Ulrich Weigand" <uweigand@de.ibm.com>
To: mutazilah@gmail.com (Paul Edwards)
Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: i370 port
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:21:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200906051520.n55FKg7T016481@d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FA0C35CA6BD04D61ABD414C1EF7F3926@Paullaptop> from "Paul Edwards" at Jun 05, 2009 10:44:19 PM
Paul Edwards wrote:
> In addition, that code has been ported to GCC 3.4.6, which is now
> working as a cross-compiler at least. It's still some months away
> from working natively though. It takes a lot of effort to convert
> the Posix-expecting GCC compiler into C90 compliance. This has
> been done though, in a way that has minimal code changes to the
> GCC mainline.
You're referring to building GCC for a non-Posix *host*, right?
I assume those changes are not (primarily) in the back-end, but
throughout GCC common code?
> Yes, I'm aware that there is an S/390 port, but it isn't EBCDIC, isn't
> HLASM, isn't 370, isn't C90, isn't MVS. It may well be possible to
> change all those things, and I suspect that in a few years from now
> I may be sending another message asking what I need to do to get
> all my changes to the s390 target into the s390 target. At that time,
> I suspect there will be a lot of objection to "polluting" the s390 target
> with all those "unnecessary" things.
Actually, I would really like to see the s390 target optionally support
the MVS ABI and HLASM assembler format, so I wouldn't have any objection
to patches that add these features ...
I understand current GCC supports various source and target character
sets a lot better out of the box, so it may be EBCDIC isn't even an
issue any more. If there are other problems related to MVS host
support, I suppose those would need to be fixed in common code anyway,
no matter whether the s390 or i370 back-ends are used.
The only point in your list I'm sceptical about is 370 architecture
support -- I don't quite see why this is still useful today (the s390
port does require at a minimum a S/390 G2 with the branch relative
instructions ... but those have been around for nearly 15 years).
Bye,
Ulrich
--
Dr. Ulrich Weigand
GNU Toolchain for Linux on System z and Cell BE
Ulrich.Weigand@de.ibm.com
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2009-06-05 12:45 Paul Edwards
2009-06-05 14:33 ` Joseph S. Myers
2009-06-05 14:57 ` Paul Edwards
2009-06-05 15:03 ` Joseph S. Myers
2009-06-05 15:24 ` Paul Edwards
2009-06-05 15:47 ` Joseph S. Myers
2009-09-11 17:35 ` i370 port - in search of hooks Paul Edwards
2017-03-31 10:34 ` i370 port Paul Edwards
2009-09-12 12:41 ` Paul Edwards
2009-06-05 15:21 ` Ulrich Weigand [this message]
2009-06-05 15:39 ` Paul Edwards
2009-06-05 15:49 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2009-06-05 15:57 ` Paul Edwards
2009-06-05 20:20 ` Joseph S. Myers
2009-06-05 20:45 ` Paul Edwards
2009-06-06 15:00 ` Paul Edwards
2009-06-15 17:46 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-06-19 0:06 ` Paul Edwards
2009-06-19 12:28 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-07-18 11:28 ` Paul Edwards
2009-07-20 14:27 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-08-08 12:04 ` Paul Edwards
2009-08-10 21:25 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-08-11 0:34 ` Paul Edwards
2009-08-11 15:21 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-08-12 11:52 ` Paul Edwards
2009-08-12 15:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-08-12 16:35 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-08-12 17:27 ` Paul Edwards
2009-08-12 17:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-08-12 19:46 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-08-12 20:31 ` Paul Edwards
2009-08-19 12:07 ` Paul Edwards
2009-08-19 12:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-08-20 12:49 ` Paul Edwards
2009-08-20 22:48 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-08-21 2:37 ` Paul Edwards
2009-08-21 16:46 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-06-05 15:44 ` Joseph S. Myers
2009-06-05 15:52 ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-08 15:55 ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-14 15:32 ` Ulrich Weigand
2021-09-02 8:15 ` s390 port Paul Edwards
2021-09-02 14:34 ` Ulrich Weigand
2021-09-02 14:50 ` Paul Edwards
2021-09-02 14:53 ` Ulrich Weigand
2021-09-02 15:01 ` Paul Edwards
2021-09-02 15:13 ` Ulrich Weigand
2021-09-02 15:26 ` Paul Edwards
2021-09-02 19:46 ` Ulrich Weigand
2021-09-02 20:05 ` Paul Edwards
2021-09-02 20:16 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-09-03 11:18 ` Ulrich Weigand
2021-09-03 11:35 ` Paul Edwards
2021-09-03 12:12 ` Ulrich Weigand
2021-09-03 12:38 ` Paul Edwards
2021-09-03 12:53 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-09-03 13:12 ` Paul Edwards
2022-12-20 4:27 ` Paul Edwards
2009-08-23 8:50 i370 port Paul Edwards
2009-08-26 22:13 ` Henrik Sorensen
2009-09-09 22:33 Paul Edwards
2009-09-14 15:42 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-09-15 12:59 ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-15 13:51 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-09-17 13:00 ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-17 17:55 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-09-18 0:35 ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-18 12:06 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-09-18 12:23 ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-18 13:27 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-09-18 13:42 ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-18 16:08 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-09-19 12:57 ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-25 10:19 ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-25 15:20 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-11-04 5:21 ` Paul Edwards
2009-11-04 16:47 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-11-09 14:55 ` Paul Edwards
2009-11-09 15:57 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2009-11-09 23:10 ` Paul Edwards
2009-11-10 14:58 ` Paul Edwards
2009-11-10 15:36 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2009-11-10 15:51 ` Paul Edwards
2009-11-10 15:56 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2009-12-02 22:03 ` Paul Edwards
2011-08-13 8:34 ` Paul Edwards
2011-08-15 14:32 ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-08-15 15:26 ` Paul Edwards
2011-08-15 17:23 ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-08-16 11:20 ` Paul Edwards
2011-08-16 13:26 ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-08-18 12:15 ` Paul Edwards
2011-08-18 13:14 ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-08-18 14:18 ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-22 12:31 Paul Edwards
2011-08-20 7:44 Paul Edwards
2011-08-20 10:09 Paul Edwards
2011-08-20 12:15 Paul Edwards
2011-08-22 12:23 ` Ulrich Weigand
2012-04-05 13:32 ` Paul Edwards
2012-04-06 18:13 ` Ulrich Weigand
2012-04-06 5:51 Paul Edwards
2012-04-06 12:49 Paul Edwards
2012-04-06 18:16 ` Ulrich Weigand
2012-04-07 4:12 ` Paul Edwards
2012-04-07 5:45 Paul Edwards
2012-04-08 17:43 ` Ulrich Weigand
2014-02-11 17:01 ` Paul Edwards
2014-02-13 4:23 Paul Edwards
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