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From: "Ulrich Weigand" <uweigand@de.ibm.com>
To: mutazilah@gmail.com (Paul Edwards)
Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: i370 port
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:35:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200908121348.n7CDmrV1012019@d12av02.megacenter.de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DB9EF3BD76BF49F09F70C08563E36DA9@Paullaptop> from "Paul Edwards" at Aug 12, 2009 10:59:46 AM

Paul Edwards wrote:
> > That depends a bit on the compiler version and optimization level,
> > but (in particular in the 3.x time frame) GCC may output assembler
> > code on a function-by-function basis, without necessarily reading
> > in the whole source file first.
> 
> Ok, actually it doesn't matter if it doesn't work all the time.  I'll
> always be compiling with -Os anyway, so it sounds like I'm in
> with a chance of the whole file being read first?
> 
> If so, where is my first opportunity, in 3.2.3, to see if there's a
> "main" function in this file?

Hmm, it seems 3.2.x would *always* operate on a function-by-function
basis.  The unit-at-a-time mode was only introduced with 3.4 (I don't
recall if it was already present in 3.3).  I don't think there is any
way in 3.2.3 to check whether there is a "main" function in the file
before it is processed ...

> > I don't know exactly how your port handles this on MVS, but usually
> > GCC itself will invoke the linker, and will itself prepare an
> > appropriate command linker for the linker.
> 
> GCC on MVS *only* outputs assembler.  ie you always have to
> use the "-S" option.
> 
> By doing so, it turns GCC into a pure text-processing application,
> which will thus work in any C90 environment.

Huh.  So the user will always have to invoke the linker manually, and
pass all the correct options (libraries etc.)?

What is the problem with having GCC itself invoke the linker, just like
it does on other platforms?

> > In current GCC, every insn contains "location" information pointing
> > back to source code line (and column) numbers.  However, in GCC 3.x
> > I think this wasn't yet present, but you had to rely on line number
> > notes interspersed with the insn stream.
> >
> > In any case, if you build with -g and use in addition the "debug
> > assembler output" flag -dA the assembler output should contain
> > human-readable comments containing line number information.
> 
> The GCC assembler is never invoked.  After getting the assembler
> output from the -S option, this is fed into IFOX00/IEV90/ASMA90.

As Paolo mentioned, the -dA flag is an option to the *compiler* that
causes it to place additional information into its output stream
(the assembler source code).


Bye,
Ulrich

-- 
  Dr. Ulrich Weigand
  GNU Toolchain for Linux on System z and Cell BE
  Ulrich.Weigand@de.ibm.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-12 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-05 12:45 Paul Edwards
2009-06-05 14:33 ` Joseph S. Myers
2009-06-05 14:57   ` Paul Edwards
2009-06-05 15:03     ` Joseph S. Myers
2009-06-05 15:24       ` Paul Edwards
2009-06-05 15:47         ` Joseph S. Myers
2009-09-11 17:35       ` i370 port - in search of hooks Paul Edwards
2017-03-31 10:34       ` i370 port Paul Edwards
2009-09-12 12:41   ` Paul Edwards
2009-06-05 15:21 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-06-05 15:39   ` Paul Edwards
2009-06-05 15:49     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2009-06-05 15:57       ` Paul Edwards
2009-06-05 20:20         ` Joseph S. Myers
2009-06-05 20:45           ` Paul Edwards
2009-06-06 15:00       ` Paul Edwards
2009-06-15 17:46         ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-06-19  0:06           ` Paul Edwards
2009-06-19 12:28             ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-07-18 11:28               ` Paul Edwards
2009-07-20 14:27                 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-08-08 12:04                   ` Paul Edwards
2009-08-10 21:25                     ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-08-11  0:34                       ` Paul Edwards
2009-08-11 15:21                         ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-08-12 11:52                           ` Paul Edwards
2009-08-12 15:27                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-08-12 16:35                             ` Ulrich Weigand [this message]
2009-08-12 17:27                               ` Paul Edwards
2009-08-12 17:56                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-08-12 19:46                                 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-08-12 20:31                                   ` Paul Edwards
2009-08-19 12:07                               ` Paul Edwards
2009-08-19 12:27                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-08-20 12:49                               ` Paul Edwards
2009-08-20 22:48                                 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-08-21  2:37                                   ` Paul Edwards
2009-08-21 16:46                                     ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-06-05 15:44   ` Joseph S. Myers
2009-06-05 15:52     ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-08 15:55     ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-14 15:32       ` Ulrich Weigand
2021-09-02  8:15   ` s390 port Paul Edwards
2021-09-02 14:34     ` Ulrich Weigand
2021-09-02 14:50       ` Paul Edwards
2021-09-02 14:53         ` Ulrich Weigand
2021-09-02 15:01           ` Paul Edwards
2021-09-02 15:13             ` Ulrich Weigand
2021-09-02 15:26               ` Paul Edwards
2021-09-02 19:46                 ` Ulrich Weigand
2021-09-02 20:05                   ` Paul Edwards
2021-09-02 20:16                     ` Andreas Schwab
2021-09-03 11:18                     ` Ulrich Weigand
2021-09-03 11:35                       ` Paul Edwards
2021-09-03 12:12                         ` Ulrich Weigand
2021-09-03 12:38                           ` Paul Edwards
2021-09-03 12:53                             ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-09-03 13:12                               ` Paul Edwards
2022-12-20  4:27                           ` Paul Edwards
2009-08-23  8:50 i370 port Paul Edwards
2009-08-26 22:13 ` Henrik Sorensen
2009-09-09 22:33 Paul Edwards
2009-09-14 15:42 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-09-15 12:59   ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-15 13:51     ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-09-17 13:00       ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-17 17:55         ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-09-18  0:35           ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-18 12:06             ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-09-18 12:23               ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-18 13:27                 ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-09-18 13:42                   ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-18 16:08                     ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-09-19 12:57                       ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-25 10:19                       ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-25 15:20                         ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-11-04  5:21                       ` Paul Edwards
2009-11-04 16:47                         ` Ulrich Weigand
2009-11-09 14:55                           ` Paul Edwards
2009-11-09 15:57                             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2009-11-09 23:10                               ` Paul Edwards
2009-11-10 14:58                               ` Paul Edwards
2009-11-10 15:36                                 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2009-11-10 15:51                               ` Paul Edwards
2009-11-10 15:56                                 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2009-12-02 22:03                                   ` Paul Edwards
2011-08-13  8:34                           ` Paul Edwards
2011-08-15 14:32                             ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-08-15 15:26                               ` Paul Edwards
2011-08-15 17:23                                 ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-08-16 11:20                                   ` Paul Edwards
2011-08-16 13:26                                     ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-08-18 12:15                                       ` Paul Edwards
2011-08-18 13:14                                         ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-08-18 14:18                                           ` Paul Edwards
2009-09-22 12:31 Paul Edwards
2011-08-20  7:44 Paul Edwards
2011-08-20 10:09 Paul Edwards
2011-08-20 12:15 Paul Edwards
2011-08-22 12:23 ` Ulrich Weigand
2012-04-05 13:32   ` Paul Edwards
2012-04-06 18:13     ` Ulrich Weigand
2012-04-06  5:51 Paul Edwards
2012-04-06 12:49 Paul Edwards
2012-04-06 18:16 ` Ulrich Weigand
2012-04-07  4:12   ` Paul Edwards
2012-04-07  5:45 Paul Edwards
2012-04-08 17:43 ` Ulrich Weigand
2014-02-11 17:01   ` Paul Edwards
2014-02-13  4:23 Paul Edwards

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