No message when out of fuel

No message when out of fuel

[Robert Goulding]

A couple of times today I've been playing the standard game (both the latest
OSX binary from website and latest Win CVS self-compiled).  I've notice a
couple of units run out of fuel, at which point they simply disappear from
the game without any message - shouldn't the player be notified that this
unit has been removed?

Robert.

Re: No message when out of fuel

[Eric McDonald]

Robert Goulding wrote:

> A couple of times today I've been playing the standard game (both the latest
> OSX binary from website and latest Win CVS self-compiled). 

Did you set up a MSVC or CodeWarrior project, or did you use 
configure/make? If you used configure, was it with Cygwin or 
MSYS+MinGW32, and did you encounter any problems?

> I've notice a
> couple of units run out of fuel, at which point they simply disappear from
> the game without any message - shouldn't the player be notified that this
> unit has been removed?

IIRC, the individual game designer must set an event notice or narrative 
detailing what happened. However, I agree that it might be nice to have 
a default narrative for starvation (running out of fuel and crashing, 
for example).

Eric

Re: No message when out of fuel

[Robert Goulding]

Eric McDonald wrote:
> Robert Goulding wrote:
>
> > A couple of times today I've been playing the standard game (both the
latest
> > OSX binary from website and latest Win CVS self-compiled).
>
> Did you set up a MSVC or CodeWarrior project, or did you use
> configure/make? If you used configure, was it with Cygwin or
> MSYS+MinGW32, and did you encounter any problems?
>

I used MSYS + MinGW32, using the TCL/TK available on the MinGW download
page.
An absolutely flawless and easy compile.  (I spent a couple of days
struggling to get a Cygwin
compile using the Cygwin TCL/TK libraries, but constantly ran into problems,
as I saw from the
mailing archive that others have (and as you wrote the other day).

> > I've notice a
> > couple of units run out of fuel, at which point they simply disappear
from
> > the game without any message - shouldn't the player be notified that
this
> > unit has been removed?
>
> IIRC, the individual game designer must set an event notice or narrative
> detailing what happened. However, I agree that it might be nice to have
> a default narrative for starvation (running out of fuel and crashing,
> for example).
>

Yes, or perhaps the lack of such a message in the standard game should be
seen as a bug in the standard game module.

Robert.

Re: No message when out of fuel

[Hans Ronne]

>> IIRC, the individual game designer must set an event notice or narrative
>> detailing what happened. However, I agree that it might be nice to have
>> a default narrative for starvation (running out of fuel and crashing,
>> for example).
>>
>Yes, or perhaps the lack of such a message in the standard game should be
>seen as a bug in the standard game module.

I just noticed the same problem since I am working on an improved resupply
code. We should certainly have a default starvation message. That would fix
the problem in all modules.

Hans

Re: No message when out of fuel

[Eric McDonald]

Robert Goulding wrote:

> I used MSYS + MinGW32, using the TCL/TK available on the MinGW download
> page.
> An absolutely flawless and easy compile.  

Good.

>(I spent a couple of days
> struggling to get a Cygwin
> compile using the Cygwin TCL/TK libraries, but constantly ran into problems,
> as I saw from the
> mailing archive that others have (and as you wrote the other day).

Yes. The Cygwin Tcl/Tk stuff is a real mess. If you build using the 
ActiveState Tcl/Tk stuff instead, things should work fine on Cygwin though.

But, I think that MinGW32 is the better choice (it is now what I use to 
build packaged executables) for Xconq, because it builds native Win32 
executables, and like you say, the MinGW32 Tcl/Tk stuff works without an 
hassle.

Eric