From: Peter Ring <PRI@cddk.dk>
To: "'docbook-tools-discuss@sourceware.cygnus.com'"
<docbook-tools-discuss@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Subject: RE: I'm trying to set up docbook-tools...
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 02:27:00 -0000 [thread overview]
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A few minutes searching might pop up some immediately useful "Getting
started with DocBook"-type documents. Useful for those that just need to
get things done, as well as those who wants to make SGML and DocBook
more palatable. Try for instance these:
A Practical Introduction to DocBook
http://www.oswg.org/oswg-nightly/oswg/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/DocBook
-Intro/docbook-intro/index.html
DocBook HOWTO
http://metalab.unc.edu/godoy/using-docbook/using-docbook.html
Practical information about the use of SGML/XML and DocBook on Debian
http://www.debian.org/~bortz/SGML-HOWTO/potato/howto.html
Practical information about the use of SGML/XML and DocBook on
WindowsNT
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/hoenicka_markus/ntsgml.html
A fairly complete guide to O'Reilly's DocBook based production system
http://www.oreilly.com/people/staff/crism/dsssl/orastyle/index.html
I've got many more if you care ...
I can't see how whining about the esoteric SGML community can be
justified (see link above). I can't see how blaming a single person
(Norman Walsh) for the lack of shrink-wrapped SGML and DocBook tools can
be justified. SGML is no more a holy grail than C++ or Lisp, and about
as immediately useful (that is to say, useless). DocBook is about as
immediately useful as STL (that is to say, useless). If you disagree,
reflect for a moment just how much prior knowledge and experience is
needed before these tools become productive. Now of course, it has
become a lot easier to use C++ and STL during the years, easy
installation, integrated development environments, tutorials, etc. etc.
It takes time and the contributions of a lot of people. Why should SGML
and DocBook be any different?
Kind regards,
Peter Ring
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2000-12-27 6:36 Peter Ring [this message]
2000-07-07 2:27 ` Peter Ring
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric Lee Green
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2000-12-27 6:36 David C. Mason
2000-12-27 6:36 Eric S. Raymond
2000-07-04 8:02 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Mark Galassi
2000-07-04 8:05 ` Mark Galassi
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-07-04 8:22 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Chuck Mead
2000-07-04 8:45 ` Chuck Mead
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Mark Galassi
2000-07-04 8:27 ` Mark Galassi
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-07-04 8:45 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Norman Walsh
2000-07-07 7:49 ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric Lee Green
2000-07-04 10:25 ` Eric Lee Green
2000-12-27 6:36 ` madhu
2000-07-04 22:01 ` madhu
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric Lee Green
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Sam Roberts
2000-07-05 7:40 ` Sam Roberts
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Ismael Olea
2000-07-05 9:57 ` Ismael Olea
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Mark Galassi
2000-07-05 9:59 ` Mark Galassi
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Sam Roberts
2000-07-05 7:32 ` Sam Roberts
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Mark Galassi
2000-07-04 11:21 ` Mark Galassi
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Norman Walsh
2000-07-07 7:49 ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27 6:36 ` David C. Mason
2000-07-05 7:41 ` David C. Mason
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Norman Walsh
2000-07-06 9:21 ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27 6:36 ` David C. Mason
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-07-06 11:59 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27 6:36 ` David C. Mason
2000-07-06 13:55 ` David C. Mason
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-07-06 14:52 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27 6:36 ` David C. Mason
2000-07-06 15:23 ` David C. Mason
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-07-06 15:52 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric Lee Green
2000-07-06 15:57 ` Eric Lee Green
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Edward C. Bailey
2000-07-06 16:05 ` Edward C. Bailey
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-07-06 16:46 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Norman Walsh
2000-07-07 7:49 ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Derek Simkowiak
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Mark Galassi
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Norman Walsh
2000-07-07 14:42 ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric Lee Green
2000-07-06 14:32 ` Eric Lee Green
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric Lee Green
2000-07-06 14:22 ` Eric Lee Green
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Mark Galassi
2000-07-06 10:25 ` Mark Galassi
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-07-06 10:37 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Kendall Clark
2000-07-06 10:48 ` Kendall Clark
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Mark Galassi
2000-07-06 10:53 ` Mark Galassi
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric Lee Green
2000-07-06 13:38 ` Eric Lee Green
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Norman Walsh
2000-07-07 7:49 ` Norman Walsh
[not found] ` <ndw@nwalsh.com>
2000-12-27 6:36 ` richard offer
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Norman Walsh
2000-07-07 7:49 ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric Bischoff
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Norman Walsh
2000-07-28 10:44 ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Chuck Dale
2000-12-27 6:36 Peter Ring
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric Bischoff
2000-08-14 23:07 ` Eric Bischoff
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Volker Paul
2000-08-16 6:57 ` Volker Paul
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Norman Walsh
2000-08-16 7:30 ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric Bischoff
2000-08-18 4:11 ` Eric Bischoff
2000-12-27 6:36 ` b_maddy_016
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric Bischoff
2000-08-18 5:55 ` Eric Bischoff
2000-12-27 6:36 Gregory Leblanc
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Eric Lee Green
2000-12-27 6:36 Volker Paul
2000-12-27 6:36 Gregory Leblanc
2000-12-27 6:36 ` Mark Galassi
2000-07-04 15:44 ` Mark Galassi
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