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From: "Sam Roberts" <sam@cogent.ca>
To: <docbook-tools-discuss@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Subject: Re: I'm trying to set up docbook-tools...
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 07:40:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <002501bfe690$04331940$1403a8c0@cogent.ca> (raw)
Message-ID: <20000705074000.7kR7vw9k9h8gmVqcIYpCzLIS4wlwMOjtOIKPploGwiY@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00070422425701.09328@ehome.inhouse>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Eric Lee Green <eric@badtux.org>


> Still, TeX and LaTeX still exist. They are thoroughly documented. They run the
> same way everywhere. They look ghe same everywhere. So while they are not the
> be-all and end-all of structured document design, they'll have to do, since the
> SGML crowd has committed collective suicide. A pity, that. 

This is just a variant of the classic complaints about Unix: I just want to
do X, but the docs don't tell me how. LaTeX is a single tool that does it
all, to use sgml you have to use a set of tools, and you can mix and match
them. You can use jade without docbook or norm's style sheets, you can use
jadetex without using docbook, the db2* scripts are so optional most people
write their own, and you don't have to use emacs to edit sgml, but it helps.

As for the sgml crowd committing suicide, judging from the increased traffic
on the oasis docbook lists, which led to a split into two still very busy
mailing lists this spring, and the increasing number of open source projects
whos docs appear to be docbook generated, I'd say people are perservering and
getting the job done.

Sam


  reply	other threads:[~2000-07-05  7:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-27  6:36 Eric S. Raymond
2000-07-04  8:02 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27  6:36 ` Mark Galassi
2000-07-04  8:05   ` Mark Galassi
2000-12-27  6:36   ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-07-04  8:22     ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27  6:36     ` Chuck Mead
2000-07-04  8:45       ` Chuck Mead
2000-12-27  6:36     ` Mark Galassi
2000-07-04  8:27       ` Mark Galassi
2000-12-27  6:36       ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-07-04  8:45         ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27  6:36     ` Norman Walsh
2000-07-07  7:49       ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27  6:36 ` Eric Lee Green
2000-07-04 10:25   ` Eric Lee Green
2000-12-27  6:36   ` Mark Galassi
2000-07-04 11:21     ` Mark Galassi
2000-12-27  6:36     ` Norman Walsh
2000-07-07  7:49       ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27  6:36   ` madhu
2000-07-04 22:01     ` madhu
2000-12-27  6:36     ` Sam Roberts
2000-07-05  7:32       ` Sam Roberts
2000-12-27  6:36     ` Eric Lee Green
2000-12-27  6:36       ` Sam Roberts [this message]
2000-07-05  7:40         ` Sam Roberts
2000-12-27  6:36         ` Ismael Olea
2000-07-05  9:57           ` Ismael Olea
2000-12-27  6:36           ` Mark Galassi
2000-07-05  9:59             ` Mark Galassi
2000-12-27  6:36       ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27  6:36   ` Norman Walsh
2000-07-06  9:21     ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27  6:36     ` Chuck Dale
     [not found]     ` <ndw@nwalsh.com>
2000-12-27  6:36       ` richard offer
2000-12-27  6:36         ` Eric Bischoff
2000-12-27  6:36           ` Norman Walsh
2000-07-28 10:44             ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27  6:36         ` Norman Walsh
2000-07-07  7:49           ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27  6:36     ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27  6:36       ` Crash-course to DocBook Eric Bischoff
2000-12-27  6:36         ` Mark Johnson
2000-12-27  6:36           ` Eric Bischoff
2000-12-27  6:36         ` Peter Toft
2000-12-27  6:36       ` I'm trying to set up docbook-tools Norman Walsh
2000-07-07  7:49         ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27  6:36       ` Mark Galassi
2000-07-06 10:25         ` Mark Galassi
2000-12-27  6:36         ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-07-06 10:37           ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27  6:36           ` Kendall Clark
2000-07-06 10:48             ` Kendall Clark
2000-12-27  6:36             ` Mark Galassi
2000-07-06 10:53               ` Mark Galassi
2000-12-27  6:36               ` Eric Lee Green
2000-07-06 13:38                 ` Eric Lee Green
2000-12-27  6:36                 ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27  6:36       ` David C. Mason
2000-12-27  6:36         ` Eric Lee Green
2000-07-06 14:22           ` Eric Lee Green
2000-12-27  6:36         ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-07-06 11:59           ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27  6:36           ` David C. Mason
2000-07-06 13:55             ` David C. Mason
2000-12-27  6:36             ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-07-06 14:52               ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27  6:36               ` David C. Mason
2000-07-06 15:23                 ` David C. Mason
2000-12-27  6:36                 ` Eric Lee Green
2000-07-06 15:57                   ` Eric Lee Green
2000-12-27  6:36                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-07-06 15:52                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27  6:36               ` Edward C. Bailey
2000-07-06 16:05                 ` Edward C. Bailey
2000-12-27  6:36                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-07-06 16:46                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27  6:36                   ` Norman Walsh
2000-07-07  7:49                     ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27  6:36                     ` Mark Galassi
2000-12-27  6:36                     ` Derek Simkowiak
2000-12-27  6:36                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27  6:36                       ` Norman Walsh
2000-07-07 14:42                         ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27  6:36             ` Eric Lee Green
2000-07-06 14:32               ` Eric Lee Green
2000-12-27  6:36     ` docbook-tools-discuss: " Bill Campbell
2000-12-27  6:36       ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27  6:36         ` Bill Campbell
2000-12-27  6:36         ` Eric S. Raymond
2000-12-27  6:36         ` Edward C. Bailey
2000-12-27  6:36   ` David C. Mason
2000-07-05  7:41     ` David C. Mason
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-12-27  6:36 David C. Mason
2000-12-27  6:36 Peter Ring
2000-12-27  6:36 ` Eric Bischoff
2000-08-14 23:07   ` Eric Bischoff
2000-12-27  6:36   ` Volker Paul
2000-08-16  6:57     ` Volker Paul
2000-12-27  6:36     ` Norman Walsh
2000-08-16  7:30       ` Norman Walsh
2000-12-27  6:36       ` Eric Bischoff
2000-08-18  4:11         ` Eric Bischoff
2000-12-27  6:36         ` b_maddy_016
2000-12-27  6:36           ` Eric Bischoff
2000-08-18  5:55             ` Eric Bischoff
2000-12-27  6:36 Gregory Leblanc
2000-12-27  6:36 ` Eric Lee Green
2000-12-27  6:36 Volker Paul
2000-12-27  6:36 Peter Ring
2000-07-07  2:27 ` Peter Ring
2000-12-27  6:36 ` Eric Lee Green
2000-12-27  6:36 Gregory Leblanc
2000-12-27  6:36 ` Mark Galassi
2000-07-04 15:44   ` Mark Galassi

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